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Should A Third Class LLB From Kent Uni Not Count As A Degree?

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A Kent University LLB graduate has been denied access to the Canadian Bar – which normally recognises UK law degrees – because he got a third. The Canadian authorities have told Juron Grant-Kinnear that the qualification is effectively meaningless to them because of his "poor overall academic performance".

Grant-Kinnear got an average mark of 41.6% in his degree, with marks between 38% and 49% in his eight degree modules – meaning he almost didn't even get a third. He will now have to complete another law degree at a Canadian university in order to practise in the country.

To put Grant-Kinnear's degree result into perspective, of 444 English pupil barristers in 2010/11, only one lucky person had a third-class degree. There are, however, some notable practising barristers and judges with thirds, including Court of Appeal judge Mr Justice Andrew McFarlane. Oh, and Carol Vorderman also got a third. Perhaps that's why Grant-Kinnear feels hard done by...

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Speaking to Canadian magazine 4Students, the Kent graduate argued that the international degree accreditation process lacks transparency:

“There should be a set guideline to say if you complete an undergrad in Canada and you go away to the UK to do law school and you go to one of these 20 or 30 top-tier schools, when you come back here’s how many courses you’re going to have to do – and that’s not how it is. You can do the exact same course load and have the exact same experience as a peer...and be given a completely different outcome. There’s not really an understanding as to why that is,” he said.

The decision to deem a third from a UK university as effectively not a law degree comes at the end of a lengthy legal battle, which saw Grant-Kinnear twice appeal the original decision of Canada’s National Committee on Accreditation to deny his Canadian law dream. The definitive result was delivered last month by the Ontario Superior Court.

Still, it's not all doom and gloom for Grant-Kinnear. He's currently working as a legal counsel in the investment division of OPSEU Pension Trust, where he doesn't need to have a Canadian law licence to practise.

Modified image by 21stCenturyGreenstuff via Wikimedia Commons on a Creative Commons license


End Of The Day Round-Up

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Battle_of_Gibraltar_1607David Wolfe QC has defended QASA, but Simon Myerson QC doesn't rate what he had to say [Pupillage And How To Get It]

Podcast with Gary Slapper and Frances Gibb: Do you really want your lawyer to be...passionate? [Open University]

An observation on new legal market entrants [Legal Business on Twitter]

I'm a Mormon, a barrister, and I'm grateful for trials [YouTube]

CPS could appeal Celtic fan's not guilty verdict over disorder charge [BBC]

What it's like to shadow a High Court judge? [Law Society Gazette]

Ministry of Justice backs down before the little army of part-time judges [Alrich Blog]

Podcast: Why Wannabe Barristers Should Do Their Time As Paralegals Before Doing The BPTC

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The path from the Bar Professional Training Course (BPTC) to paralegal purgatory is a well trodden one. Sadly, most of those purgatory-dwellers never make it to pupillage heaven. But what if you were to subvert this natural order and, say, become a paralegal before doing the BPTC, gleaning valuable experience and contacts at a much earlier stage than most?

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Meet aspiring barrister Alex Pritchard-Jones (pictured below left), who is taking the fairly unusual step of paralegaling between his Graduate Diploma in Law (GDL) and BPTC, which he will commence in September having deferred his place for a year. Previously, Alex did history and politics at Newcastle University, before completing a masters in modern British history at Oxford.

"I thought that everyone seems to have to do some paralegal work after [the BPTC]," says Alex, who works at GT Stewart Solicitors. "So I thought I might as well get it in before then."

Alex describes himself as "one of those arts graduates who needed something to do and went for the law." In the podcast, we also talk about the contrast between Alex's decision to convert to law from an arts background and my life so far – I'm Tom (that's me on the right, I've had a haircut since), a new addition to the Legal Cheek massive. As an LLB graduate going into journalism, it was interesting to hear from someone heading in a different career direction.

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Our conclusion? That doing an LLB might actually be a pretty good way of putting people off a legal career...

Listen to Alex and Tom, plus Legal Cheek veterans Kevin Poulter and Alex Aldridge, in the podcast below – also available on iTunes.

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Sir Edward Garnier MP, ex-Solicitor General, tries to amend out key sections of the Defamation Bill... [Daily Mail]

...and David Allen Green asks: should companies be allowed to sue for libel? [Jack of Kent]

Lincoln's Inn beat Nottingham University to win the UK Law Students' Association moot competition [Photobucket]

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Tax barrister created himself a tax avoidance scheme [Law Society Gazette]

The message from the courts is clear: we’ll have none of that gender-bending nonsense round here [The Independent]

Apprentice winner loses constructive dismissal case against Lord Sugar [Guardian]

Singapore law firm offers a truly excellent Q&A for potential trainees [RollOnFriday]

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Girls Aloud's Sarah Harding sentenced to six-month driving ban [Daily Mail]

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Met police planning dawn raids tomorrow ahead of Thatcher funeral [Mirror]

Brian Inkster writes of his "true Twitter friend" Elizabeth Miles, who died over the weekend [The Time Blawg]

Lord McAlpine wins first stage of libel case against Sally Bercow [Guardian]

Irwin Mitchell replaces Clifford Chance in Saudi prince litigation [The Lawyer]

President of the Queen's Bench division rules a single failure to provide a court interpreter isn't serious misconduct [New Law Journal]

Image credit: Duncharris (Wikimedia Commons under a Creative Commons license)

You Have To Go All The Way With The GDL – But An LLB Gives You Options

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When I was 16, I received my GCSE results and discovered that I had got a B in maths. I was absolutely delighted, given that I was expecting something more like an F. But it still represented a narrowing of options, with my B acting as confirmation that I was destined to do something wordy with my life. So I decided to do law (a choice vindicated by the nightmares about long division that I still have). Why not? Might get me a job (this made more sense in 2005). Perfect. I got an offer from UCL, and off I went...

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About half way through my first year, I started to wonder if I'd made a dreadful mistake, but I stuck at it. Happily, things changed as soon as I started actually having some choice over what modules I could study.

Nevertheless, it had become pretty clear by then that legal practice wasn't for me; I like finding out about things for their own sake, and, as I discovered during work experience, I'm not good with form-filling. I still might change my mind, though, and it's good to know that I can still jump straight onto the Legal Practice Course (LPC).

Until last week's Legal Cheek podcast I'd always taken the options I still have about my long term future for granted. But an observation made by our guest, Graduate Diploma in Law (GDL) graduate Alex Pritchard-Jones, made me see how things could have been different if I'd come to law later. "If you've done something else and then the GDL," said Alex, "and then you fail to become a lawyer...well [you can't]. You have to go all the way if you convert."

I agree with Alex in that I would feel a much greater pressure to become a lawyer if I'd taken the arts-degree-followed-by-GDL route. In that sense, people with LLBs have a bit of a leg up. They save themselves a year of legal education, and in doing so they're allowed a bigger range of options. If I never become a lawyer having done a law degree, there's no harm done. But if I were to never become a lawyer after having done the GDL and LPC/ Bar Professional Training Course (BPTC), I'd be bordering on bankruptcy with a qualification that's almost worthless...

Tom Webb is Legal Cheek's editorial assistant and a masters journalism student at City University.

Court Of Appeal Judge’s Determination To Get His Best Lines In Before Retirement

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Fresh from coming up with perhaps the most tortuous equine metaphor ever, soon-to-retire judge Sir Alan Ward has used his penultimate judgment to deliver a wistful nautical-themed allegory about departing the Royal Courts of Justice. Paragraph 30 of Reeves v Randy Northrop – an appeal of a houseboat mooring dispute – is transcribed in full below...

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justice_ward"I am afraid, therefore, that Randy Northrop must lose and the appeal must be dismissed. I have a sneaking sympathy for him because he did not use many of the services which council tax is supposed to provide and it may have been harsh to list him in band A. But all of that is of no moment. He had indicated that he was soon to move and he has moved from the mooring.

"He has thrown off the bow lines and sailed away from the safe harbour though whether to catch the trade winds in his sails or just withstand the buffetings of the gales in the English Channel I know not. In as much as this is the penultimate judgment I shall write after 18 years in the Court of Appeal, I am a kindred spirit who has sailed away from the safe harbour of the Royal Courts of Justice, not at all sure how to explore, or what to dream or what I am about to discover."

The full case report, which was first spotted by CrimeLine on Twitter and also contains a memorable rant about incomprehensible legislation, is here. We await Sir Alan's final judgment with anticipation.

Podcast: Dispatches from the exam frontline

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Exam season is upon us: students up and down the country are frantically highlighting, cultivating coffee addictions, weeping and – if urban legend is to be believed – tearing key pages out of library books to gain a competitive edge.

Blogger Lucy Pether (pictured with me below), who combines her Legal Cheek editorial duties with the final year of a law degree at LSE, is one such student (although she's never torn pages out of library books). Happily, I'm free from such pain having finished my law degree at neighbouring institution UCL last year. Below, we share our exam tips (and horror stories) for your listening pleasure...

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Currently in a whirlwind of felt tip pens and post it notes in the run up to her finals, Lucy is trying her best to avoid absolutely anyone who studies law. As part of this strategy she has taken to having several baths a day to calm her nerves. Meanwhile, from my comfortable position as a graduate, I urge students to start smoking and, when it comes to the big day, to avoid the temptation to walk out of the exam room after reading the questions (a sight I once witnessed).

This podcast is also available on iTunes.


End of the day round-up

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Pupillage Gateway deadline extended after yet another huge cock up [Bar Council]

A&O takes biggest hit as magic circle squanders £10m on lost trainees [The Lawyer]

Act of Terror: arrested for filming police officers – video [YouTube]

Drug dealer who says tattoos of naked women would endanger his life in Iraq is given human right to stay in UK [Daily Mail]

Sean Jones QC lends support to Surrey door-knocking campaign to thwart Grayling’s masterplan [Legal Cheek comments]

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Trademarks: the good, the bad and the ugly [The Guardian]

Jermaine Jackson "faces jail over $30,000 in unpaid child support for two teenage sons" [Mail Online]

Five terrible comedy law student videos

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As is traditional at this time of year on the other side of the pond, law students have been plastering their "law revue" comedy vids all over YouTube. Some are good, others less so. Below, beginning with an awful One Direction cover, are five of the worst from this year's offering...

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'What makes you dutiful'

One Direction, without the boyband looks or rudimentary singing ability.

A Tyrannosaurus rex goes to law school

Surreal, but not in a charming or funny way.

Law students discover the Blair Witch Project – 15 years late

As US blog Above the Law – which runs a competition judging these videos – put it: "Look, if you are going to make highly self-referential videos like this, there needs to be a great hook."

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That's not Bear Grylls. I don't think he's ever looked this awkward on camera. Not even when he was chugging his own wee.

'I got 99 problems but a case ain't one: the unfunny role play'

Failed thesp wannabes often end up at law school, as you can see below – although I admit this one has its moments...

There are many, many more "Law Revue 2013" videos on YouTube.

Run Grayling Run

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As a gesture of goodwill, we've included* Chris Grayling in our team for the London Legal Walk...

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Whatever pace you plan to cover the six miles at, be it a justice secretary sprint or a journalist lollop, you're very welcome to join us after work on Monday 20 May. Join by sending us an email.

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Alternatively, if you're a wealthy partner or a top QC with skivvies to do your walking for you, why not simply donate some money to the London Legal Support Trust?

Donations to the Trust, which supports law centres and legal advice agencies in London and the South East, can be made here.

*Chris Grayling has yet to confirm his acceptance of our invitation.

End of the day round-up

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New awards ceremony highlights bad grammar – has Dynamo Legal been nominated? [BBC News]

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Law students and industry say BPP free courses "diminish the perception of UK higher education" [Lawyer2B]

Stuart Hall admits to abusing a string of under-age girls [The Guardian]

UK Uncut challenges HMRC in the High Court over Goldman Sachs deal [Daily Telegraph]

Illegal immigrant trying to leave Britain is jailed after being caught at Channel Tunnel on his way home [Mail Online]

Warwickshire Police apologises for refusing to name ex-officer charged with theft, citing Leverson [sic] [The Independent]

Anarchist leader cleared of raping protester during Occupy London [The Sun]

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Judge charged with stealing cocaine from evidence in his own cases [Mail Online]

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Defendant throws cup of water across courtroom, drenching judge [Sheffield Star]

Two bailed after arrest over Twitter comments about Woolwich murder [Independent]

Lord McAlpine wins libel case against Sally Bercow [BBC News]

Bercow's statement: "I have learned my own lesson the hard way." [Jack of Kent]

Frenetic pace of life holds women back from top legal posts, says Lady Justice Hallett [Telegraph]

Amanda Bynes arrested for throwing bong out of 36th floor window [Mail Online]

10 of the best Lord Justice Ward lines

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justice_wardLast month, retiring Court of Appeal judge Sir Alan Ward (pictured) used his penultimate judgment to deliver a wistful nautical-themed allegory about departing the Royal Courts of Justice.

It wasn't the first time that he'd made lawyers smile. Here are ten of his best lines...

'Warring bankers'

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"This case involves a number of – and here I must not fall into Dr Spooner’s error – warring bankers." [Inforrm]

Darth Vader deference

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When a Fathers 4 Justice campaigner came to argue his case dressed in a Darth Vader outfit complete with Jedi weaponry, Lord Justice Ward asked: "Would Lord Vader kindly take off his helmet and put down his light saber before addressing the court?" Ward then proceeded to politely refer to the man as "Lord Vader" throughout the hearing. [The Times]

The higher you go, the less the 'oxygen of common sense'

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“I prefer the instincts of the youthful Mr Justice Stanley Burnton before he became corrupted by the arid atmosphere of this court. It goes to prove what every good old-fashioned county court judge knows: the higher you go, the less the essential oxygen of common sense is available to you.” [Standpoint]

No satisfaction

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"The appellant is a lap dancer. I would not, of course, begin to know exactly what that involves. One can guess at it, but could not faithfully describe it. The Judge tantalisingly tells us, at paragraph 21 of his judgment, that the purpose is 'to tease but not to satisfy'.

"By about the end of 2002, or early in 2003, the appellant seems to have begun to tease the respondent. He, being a rich businessman, sought, no doubt, to enliven his lonely evenings in London by seeking entertainment at the Spearmint Rhino club in Tottenham Court Road where the appellant was then employed. Having been tempted, he managed to obtain her telephone number and invited her to dinner. It was not exactly the traditional boy meets girl, "Let's have dinner, darling" kind of invitation. It was an invitation which she accepted, but entirely on the basis that she would be there as his escort and, as his escort, she would provide the services of companionship and amusement, but for a consideration. That consideration would amount, according to the judgment, to perhaps about £700 or £800 a night for the pleasure of her company at dinner. But the arrangement was made on a number of occasions and, as they went on, the relationship changed and at some time early in 2003 it is common ground that the services included sexual services, for which even more money was paid as a consideration. Whether or not rule 2 of the Spearmint Rhino club had been breached, requiring that you could get no satisfaction, we do not know and fortunately do not have to decide." [Bailii]

'Potty' over rhododendrons

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“This is another of that hideous form of litigation called the boundary dispute, a form of litigation which is best not pursued. Just how much is this stupid piece of land worth? What you are arguing over is a few rhododendron bushes. If you live in St Georges Hill, you've got money to throw away, presumably. But why throw it away like this? You're all potty. Disputes of this kind are a most hateful form of litigation; go away and sort it out." [Mail Online]

'Love conquers all'

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“It all seemed so apposite, for this case is – or at least it professes to be – all about love. Love is, of course, an old, old story. 'Amor omnia vincit et nos cedemas amori' – love conquers all, let us surrender ourselves to love – wrote Virgil; 'Love is all you need,' sang the Beatles.” [Exfamily.org]

Hell v 'the land of bigotry'

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"Not all neighbours are from hell. They may simply occupy the land of bigotry. There may be no escape from hell but the boundaries of bigotry can with tact be changed by the cutting edge of reasonableness skilfully applied by a trained mediator. Give and take is often better than all or nothing". [BBC News]

'Decree Nicey'

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After Ward urged a wife to show her "broken" ex-husband "a little milk of human kindness", he was memorably labelled "Decree Nicey" by The Mirror.

"The letter written by the wife's solicitors asking him to remove his belongings is lacking in sensitivity, lacking feeling, lacking in any humanity. This is a totally broken man, an honourable man, and to rub his nose in it like this is not dignified. He ought to be given a reasonable chance to clear a lifetime of belongings. I hope a little milk of human kindness may still run in the veins of those who have won everything for someone who has lost everything." [The Mirror]

The most tortuous equine metaphor ever?

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"You may be able to drag the horse (a mule offers a better metaphor) to water, but you cannot force the wretched animal to drink if it stubbornly resists. I suppose you can make it run around the litigation course so vigorously that in a muck sweat it will find the mediation trough more friendly and desirable. But none of that provides the real answer." [Bailii]

Sailing away 'from the safe harbour of the Royal Courts of Justice'

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"I am afraid, therefore, that Randy Northrop must lose and the appeal must be dismissed. I have a sneaking sympathy for him because he did not use many of the services which council tax is supposed to provide and it may have been harsh to list him in band A. But all of that is of no moment. He had indicated that he was soon to move and he has moved from the mooring.

"He has thrown off the bow lines and sailed away from the safe harbour though whether to catch the trade winds in his sails or just withstand the buffetings of the gales in the English Channel I know not. In as much as this is the penultimate judgment I shall write after 18 years in the Court of Appeal, I am a kindred spirit who has sailed away from the safe harbour of the Royal Courts of Justice, not at all sure how to explore, or what to dream or what I am about to discover." [Bailii]

Lawyers prove they can pull off a demo – as Britain discusses #PublicW*nkingOnYoutube

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They got all dressed up, posed for clever pictures and were joined in such numbers that they halted traffic outside the MoJ – filling Twitter with their tweets and photos.

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Surely, then, this was the moment that the legal profession's increasingly ubiquitous #SaveUKJustice hashtag would trend on Twitter? Well, it might have been, if the UK hadn't become gripped by a discussion about #PublicWankingOnYoutube. But hey ho...

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Here are a some of the best videoclips, photos and recordings from yesterday's rally.

Lawyer bask in the afternoon sunshine (@NearlyLegal)

Stopping traffic (@KevinPoulter)

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"Junior legal aid barristers earn less than nurses," roars Blackstone Chambers' Dinah Rose QC (@HeadofLegal – with more audio from the event at HeadofLegal.com)

Overheard: the #SaveUKJustice purple "is looking a little UKIP" (@KevinPoulter)

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"Do we believe in justice?" asks David Lammy MP (@SymeonBrown).

Rally-justiceMichael Fordham QC calls the MoJ "wankers" and suggests that legal aid is "not an avocado" (@HeadofLegal – with more audio from the event at HeadofLegal.com)

"There's a hidden agenda: so government can behave illegally," Geoffrey Robertson QC tells the crowd (@JusticeGap)

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Star quality: Bianca Jagger followed up her appearance at the rally with a turn on Channel 4 News (c0unse1)

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The #SaveUKJustice petition, which now has almost 78,000 signatures, is here.


End of the day round-up

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Baroness Hale becomes deputy president of the Supreme Court — British history's most senior female judge [The Guardian]

Berlusconi guilty of paying for sex with underaged prostitute, gets seven year sentence [Sky News]

The best letter from HMRC you'll ever see [Twitter]

Judge Constance Briscoe sent to trial on perverting the course of justice charges [Evening Standard]

The seat Ed Snowden booked for his flight joins Twitter [Twitter]

Lawyer catches fleeing thief [This is Cornwall]

Ten social media tips for lawyers [Law Society]

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gay-prideUS Supreme Court rules anti-gay marriage law unconstitutional [Huffington Post]

Twitter users might have broken the law during the Jeremy Forrest case [The Guardian]

Inns of Court closures, Google Glass-clad wannabe lawyer drones & barrisolicitors: what LETR could have looked like [The Guardian]

Lovebirds of the week [Twitter]

Does the Lord Chancellor really exist? [UK Constitutional Law Blog]

Lord Hope makes his valedictory address before retiring from the Supreme Court [Youtube]

Billionaire's wife raided husband's safe while he was playing golf to find out how much he was worth [Mail Online]

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Britain's 'most lenient judge' has three sentences extended by Court of Appeal in a year [Mail Online]

Honey HiveHowardKennedyFsi lawyers strike wild poses (pictured) as start-up venture HoneyHive launches [Twitter]

Shadow Chancellor Sadiq Khan's open letter to Grayling [Huffington Post]

BPTC student rails against 'BP Oil', 'Kingdom of Law', 'Craplan' and 'Citi Law School (too big to fail)' [The ABCs of the BPTC]

Taylor Wessing to launch international secondments for trainees [Lawyer2B]

Teenager fined £35 for using a mobile phone while driving his Rolls Royce [Mail Online]

In defence of Silvio Berlusconi [The Spectator]

Chris Grayling fails to turn up to Commons debate on legal aid [Twitter]

Top lawyers’ faces on other top lawyers

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We tried to come up with a good reason for doing this, but there isn't one, really — other than to participate in the trend for face swaps sweeping the internet.

For the last few weeks, the Inns of Court have been full of rumours that Michael Mansfield's chambers, Tooks, may be considering combining with a rival to create a legal aid super set. Until now, though, few have considered the possibility of a merger between Mansfield himself and another top QC. Our sincere apologies to Cherie Booth.

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The relationship between Leveson lovebirds Carine Patry Hoskins and David Sherborne has generated lots of controversy. But few disagree that the duo make a good-looking couple. They make an even better merged abomination.

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Who'd have known it? Breaking Bad lawyer Saul Goodman + Nick "Mr Loophole" Freeman = a lovely suited woodland creature.

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Kirsty Brimelow QC and John Cooper QC were at each others' throats a few months ago, but then buried the hatchet on Newsnight. Good news! To commemorate their continuing good relations, here is a picture of Brimelow's face super-imposed onto Cooper's body, in which the combined duo proudly hold a picture of Cooper's face.

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Meet the UK Supreme Court's first ever female president, Baroness Neuberger.

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End Of The Day Round-Up

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Sir Edward Garnier MP, ex-Solicitor General, tries to amend out key sections of the Defamation Bill... [Daily Mail]

...and David Allen Green asks: should companies be allowed to sue for libel? [Jack of Kent]

Lincoln's Inn beat Nottingham University to win the UK Law Students' Association moot competition [Photobucket]

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Tax barrister created himself a tax avoidance scheme [Law Society Gazette]

The message from the courts is clear: we’ll have none of that gender-bending nonsense round here [The Independent]

Apprentice winner loses constructive dismissal case against Lord Sugar [Guardian]

Singapore law firm offers a truly excellent Q&A for potential trainees [RollOnFriday]

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